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		<title>By: Michael Hyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Just an idea, it might be good to post a link to the chapter in your book in which you discuss bestseller lists. That way, my readers could “sample the brew” and then, hopefully, buy the book.

By the way, I have bought your tapes in the past and thought they were excellent.

All the best,

Mike
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Just an idea, it might be good to post a link to the chapter in your book in which you discuss bestseller lists. That way, my readers could “sample the brew” and then, hopefully, buy the book.</p>
<p>By the way, I have bought your tapes in the past and thought they were excellent.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: John Kremer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Kremer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been writing for years about the inaccuracies of the major bestseller lists, especially those compiled by the &lt;I&gt;New York Times&lt;/I&gt; and &lt;I&gt;Publishers Weekly&lt;/I&gt;. I devote an entire section of by book, &lt;I&gt;1001 Ways to Market Your Books&lt;/I&gt;, to a discussion of this problem, especially for smaller book publishers. For example, you can&#039;t make the &lt;I&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt; bestseller list unless they put you on the potential list to begin with, but their bias is totally focussed on the top ten publishing groups, primarily those based in New York City.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been writing for years about the inaccuracies of the major bestseller lists, especially those compiled by the <i>New York Times</i> and <i>Publishers Weekly</i>. I devote an entire section of by book, <i>1001 Ways to Market Your Books</i>, to a discussion of this problem, especially for smaller book publishers. For example, you can&#8217;t make the <i>New York Times</i> bestseller list unless they put you on the potential list to begin with, but their bias is totally focussed on the top ten publishing groups, primarily those based in New York City.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 07:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Your post is fascinating! You raise some very valid points, especially the distinction between “trade books” and all other books (e.g., text books).

Thanks for the link,

Mike
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Your post is fascinating! You raise some very valid points, especially the distinction between “trade books” and all other books (e.g., text books).</p>
<p>Thanks for the link,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Blowhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Blowhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, tks. Much to learn!

You may get a kick out of a blog posting I wrote about bestseller lists a few years back ...

http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/2003/07/bestseller_lists.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, tks. Much to learn!</p>
<p>You may get a kick out of a blog posting I wrote about bestseller lists a few years back &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/2003/07/bestseller_lists.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/2003/07/bestseller_lists.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gina Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike and all who added to clarifiying. I feel like I finally have a grasp on understanding this. Maybe a few well written/angled articles in key publications would raise awareness and possibly open some eyes?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike and all who added to clarifiying. I feel like I finally have a grasp on understanding this. Maybe a few well written/angled articles in key publications would raise awareness and possibly open some eyes?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Thanks for your feedback. I agree with you. We are living in the “Age of Transparency.” This is why it is easy for me to share information. Competive advantage is not the information itself. It is all about knowing what to do with the information. This is also a case where we need to stop trying to protect our slice of the pie and focus on making the pie bigger for everyone. The former will only lead to declining sales and market share. The latter may just lead to growth in sales and market share.

Regards,

Mike
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Thanks for your feedback. I agree with you. We are living in the “Age of Transparency.” This is why it is easy for me to share information. Competive advantage is not the information itself. It is all about knowing what to do with the information. This is also a case where we need to stop trying to protect our slice of the pie and focus on making the pie bigger for everyone. The former will only lead to declining sales and market share. The latter may just lead to growth in sales and market share.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Seybert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Seybert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussion Mike - another element in the &quot;why can&#039;t we have better lists&quot; dialog is the money that&#039;s made by those who control the data. There are a number of players who control a portion of the stream and none want to give up what they have.

Their tight-fistedness is somewhat understandable, as some have invested huge sums of of money setting up data collection and distribution models. However, the sad reaility is that we will never have a truely complete and accurate list until the POS data for ALL channels becomes openly available.

My encouragement to those who have their hands on individual buckets of data is to understand we are in a post-information age where everyone has access to knowledge to a point where having knowledge is not as valuable as knowing what to do with it.

Thanks again Mike - no easy solution is forthcoming, but dialog such as this is a step in the right direction.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussion Mike &#8211; another element in the &#8220;why can&#8217;t we have better lists&#8221; dialog is the money that&#8217;s made by those who control the data. There are a number of players who control a portion of the stream and none want to give up what they have.</p>
<p>Their tight-fistedness is somewhat understandable, as some have invested huge sums of of money setting up data collection and distribution models. However, the sad reaility is that we will never have a truely complete and accurate list until the POS data for ALL channels becomes openly available.</p>
<p>My encouragement to those who have their hands on individual buckets of data is to understand we are in a post-information age where everyone has access to knowledge to a point where having knowledge is not as valuable as knowing what to do with it.</p>
<p>Thanks again Mike &#8211; no easy solution is forthcoming, but dialog such as this is a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandilyn Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandilyn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, thanks for all this. I know this reporting takes a lot of time.

In November on Forensics and Faith, I ran a four-day post on bestseller lists both in CBA and ABA. Since I&#039;m no expert in this area, I had to do quite a bit of research to see how each is put together. A couple things I discovered in that research:

Michelle--yes, it would be great to have WalMart data, but the company apparently refuses to give it to anybody. They have no interest in bestsellers lists; they&#039;re only interested in what they sell, and to them that&#039;s proprietary info.

Terry: The periodicals seem to like how their lists work, even though they know they&#039;re inaccurate. These periodicals are geared toward their own clientele, and their lists for the most part reflect that type of consumer. Besides, the NYT is considered king, so why should it change? (BTW, I was astounded in reporting how the NYT list is created. The thing&#039;s front-loaded with major publisher&#039;s &quot;big books.&quot;)

At the least, I just wish CBA could get its act together and produce a decent list within the industry. But with many stores refusing to report their data, including the entire Family chain, our list is really inaccurate. A CBA official hinted to me that this is about to change--&quot;watch for news at the January Expo.&quot; We shall see.

~ Brandilyn
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, thanks for all this. I know this reporting takes a lot of time.</p>
<p>In November on Forensics and Faith, I ran a four-day post on bestseller lists both in CBA and ABA. Since I&#8217;m no expert in this area, I had to do quite a bit of research to see how each is put together. A couple things I discovered in that research:</p>
<p>Michelle&#8211;yes, it would be great to have WalMart data, but the company apparently refuses to give it to anybody. They have no interest in bestsellers lists; they&#8217;re only interested in what they sell, and to them that&#8217;s proprietary info.</p>
<p>Terry: The periodicals seem to like how their lists work, even though they know they&#8217;re inaccurate. These periodicals are geared toward their own clientele, and their lists for the most part reflect that type of consumer. Besides, the NYT is considered king, so why should it change? (BTW, I was astounded in reporting how the NYT list is created. The thing&#8217;s front-loaded with major publisher&#8217;s &#8220;big books.&#8221;)</p>
<p>At the least, I just wish CBA could get its act together and produce a decent list within the industry. But with many stores refusing to report their data, including the entire Family chain, our list is really inaccurate. A CBA official hinted to me that this is about to change&#8211;&#8221;watch for news at the January Expo.&#8221; We shall see.</p>
<p>~ Brandilyn</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments. Thanks!

The big problem is that you need two willing parties to make this work. First, the media (or Nielsen BookScan) has to recognize that their lists are incomplete and therefore inaccurate. I don’t think there is intentional bias; they just don’t get it.

Second, retailers have to cooperate and furnish their data. Frankly, this is the problem with Wal-Mart, Sam’s, and most Christian retailers. So far, they have refused to cooperate, because they think it will give their competitors an advantage. (I addressed this notion in my first post on this topic.) I am hoping that they will see that greater visibility for the true bestsellers will, in the end, help everyone, including themselves.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments. Thanks!</p>
<p>The big problem is that you need two willing parties to make this work. First, the media (or Nielsen BookScan) has to recognize that their lists are incomplete and therefore inaccurate. I don’t think there is intentional bias; they just don’t get it.</p>
<p>Second, retailers have to cooperate and furnish their data. Frankly, this is the problem with Wal-Mart, Sam’s, and most Christian retailers. So far, they have refused to cooperate, because they think it will give their competitors an advantage. (I addressed this notion in my first post on this topic.) I am hoping that they will see that greater visibility for the true bestsellers will, in the end, help everyone, including themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Pendergrass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Pendergrass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that somehow, someone should get numbers from places such as Walmart and Sams.

It just makes sense that it should be done right.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that somehow, someone should get numbers from places such as Walmart and Sams.</p>
<p>It just makes sense that it should be done right.</p>
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