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		<title>By: Wambura Kimunyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wambura Kimunyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... I was involved in a discussion on this very subject recently. My take was, well, just the opposite.

To speak from my experience: There was a time when I had a voracious appetite for literary fiction.  I couldn&#039;t get enough of it. Authors in this genre tend not to churn out multiple books within short spans of time so I found myself often in search of more than the best-seller list could provide. Also as time went by, I realised that oftentimes little known authors can churn out some real gems in this genre, if you know where to look.

The challenge for me then became where to look.

Over time, I began to distinguish between the different imprints and to have a strong sense of what &#039;promise was inherent&#039; in them.  I had a particularly strong affinity for Flamingo Books which (I think) was an imprint of Harper Collins.  It came to be that it didn&#039;t matter who the author was, if it was a Flamingo Book, I picked it up because I knew what to expect. I don&#039;t recall ever being disappointed, although that might very well be me nostalgically romanticising a past that is now beyond my reach.  But, on the whole, I was a very satisfied customer.

And then, without warning (to me at least), Flamingo disappeared into thin air!  I cannot begin to tell you how disoriented I was.  Once upon a time, the editors at Flamingo provided a bridge for me between the known and the unknown. Then all of a sudden, they pulled that bridge right from under me.  I do not exaggerate when I say that I went through a personal book-buying crisis.

I continued to buy the established authors, of course, or books by those authors whose style I&#039;d developed a taste for over the years, but unfortunately, I sampled fewer new authors and sheepishly migrated back to the (grossly inadequate, in my book at least) bestseller list.

In the interim I have wandered into new genres as well as attempted to develop cautious new relationships with the other literary imprints that were long ago in the shadows of Flamingo, at least in my eyes.

But still, as I see it, if you&#039;re an avid reader, you&#039;re going to want to read more than what&#039;s on the bestseller list in the genre of your choice. Sooner or later, you&#039;ll go searching for the hidden gems.  When that time comes, imprints, (if they are successfully executed and not just pulled out of a hat, you understand), are the guiding posts to the treasure coves where those gems are to be found.

And, if the longtail is the future of the book business, then imprints are going to matter more, not less. So I think the conversation should not be about whether they should exist or not, but about what would be/is the right way to execute them.  Because sometimes i have a sense that publishers come up with an imprint because, well, that&#039;s what we do right? Although I think in the long run the market has a way of telling these publishers what to do with their imprints.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; I was involved in a discussion on this very subject recently. My take was, well, just the opposite.</p>
<p>To speak from my experience: There was a time when I had a voracious appetite for literary fiction.  I couldn&#8217;t get enough of it. Authors in this genre tend not to churn out multiple books within short spans of time so I found myself often in search of more than the best-seller list could provide. Also as time went by, I realised that oftentimes little known authors can churn out some real gems in this genre, if you know where to look.</p>
<p>The challenge for me then became where to look.</p>
<p>Over time, I began to distinguish between the different imprints and to have a strong sense of what &#8216;promise was inherent&#8217; in them.  I had a particularly strong affinity for Flamingo Books which (I think) was an imprint of Harper Collins.  It came to be that it didn&#8217;t matter who the author was, if it was a Flamingo Book, I picked it up because I knew what to expect. I don&#8217;t recall ever being disappointed, although that might very well be me nostalgically romanticising a past that is now beyond my reach.  But, on the whole, I was a very satisfied customer.</p>
<p>And then, without warning (to me at least), Flamingo disappeared into thin air!  I cannot begin to tell you how disoriented I was.  Once upon a time, the editors at Flamingo provided a bridge for me between the known and the unknown. Then all of a sudden, they pulled that bridge right from under me.  I do not exaggerate when I say that I went through a personal book-buying crisis.</p>
<p>I continued to buy the established authors, of course, or books by those authors whose style I&#8217;d developed a taste for over the years, but unfortunately, I sampled fewer new authors and sheepishly migrated back to the (grossly inadequate, in my book at least) bestseller list.</p>
<p>In the interim I have wandered into new genres as well as attempted to develop cautious new relationships with the other literary imprints that were long ago in the shadows of Flamingo, at least in my eyes.</p>
<p>But still, as I see it, if you&#8217;re an avid reader, you&#8217;re going to want to read more than what&#8217;s on the bestseller list in the genre of your choice. Sooner or later, you&#8217;ll go searching for the hidden gems.  When that time comes, imprints, (if they are successfully executed and not just pulled out of a hat, you understand), are the guiding posts to the treasure coves where those gems are to be found.</p>
<p>And, if the longtail is the future of the book business, then imprints are going to matter more, not less. So I think the conversation should not be about whether they should exist or not, but about what would be/is the right way to execute them.  Because sometimes i have a sense that publishers come up with an imprint because, well, that&#8217;s what we do right? Although I think in the long run the market has a way of telling these publishers what to do with their imprints.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashok R. Chandran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashok R. Chandran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a buyer of scholarly books, years before I became an editor, I used to rely on imprints -- as an assurance of quality. At a bookstore to buy a bestseller, people do not ask for the imprint, probably because they have by then got the assurance in other ways. But when &#039;trying out&#039; an author, doesn&#039;t imprint matter?

Or is this fetish for imprint, a peculiarity of scholarly publishing because the authors invariably are also the consumers? I speak from my experience in India.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a buyer of scholarly books, years before I became an editor, I used to rely on imprints &#8212; as an assurance of quality. At a bookstore to buy a bestseller, people do not ask for the imprint, probably because they have by then got the assurance in other ways. But when &#8216;trying out&#8217; an author, doesn&#8217;t imprint matter?</p>
<p>Or is this fetish for imprint, a peculiarity of scholarly publishing because the authors invariably are also the consumers? I speak from my experience in India.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Taber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Taber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was all ready to buy the argument that imprint names don&#039;t mean anything to consumers until I started to read the comments, which seemed to indicate that a few people at least look for imprint brands -- whether it&#039;s an imprint name or a cover design or a cool logo -- in making an initial evaluation of a book.

So perhaps it&#039;s not that all imprints are meaningless, but that &lt;i&gt;poorly defined imprints&lt;/i&gt; with no strong brand identity in the minds of consumers -- that is, to say, &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; of them -- are without value.

And the imprints that &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have a well-cultivated brand identity -- e.g., a Penguin for literature, a DK for lavishly illustrated children&#039;s books, a Rough Guide for down-to-earth travel books, an Oxford for language references, or an O&#039;Reilly for high-quality technical books (all examples from my own bookshelves) -- really do help consumers make buying decisions. I know they help me -- especially when I&#039;m buying a book sight unseen from Amazon or the like.





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was all ready to buy the argument that imprint names don&#8217;t mean anything to consumers until I started to read the comments, which seemed to indicate that a few people at least look for imprint brands &#8212; whether it&#8217;s an imprint name or a cover design or a cool logo &#8212; in making an initial evaluation of a book.</p>
<p>So perhaps it&#8217;s not that all imprints are meaningless, but that <i>poorly defined imprints</i> with no strong brand identity in the minds of consumers &#8212; that is, to say, <i>most</i> of them &#8212; are without value.</p>
<p>And the imprints that <i>do</i> have a well-cultivated brand identity &#8212; e.g., a Penguin for literature, a DK for lavishly illustrated children&#8217;s books, a Rough Guide for down-to-earth travel books, an Oxford for language references, or an O&#8217;Reilly for high-quality technical books (all examples from my own bookshelves) &#8212; really do help consumers make buying decisions. I know they help me &#8212; especially when I&#8217;m buying a book sight unseen from Amazon or the like.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

You don&#039;t need the publisher for the &quot;name&quot; per se. However, you do need a publisher for (a) access to accounts and (b) fulfillment to those accounts. There are many other things the publisher adds  as well.

Thanks,

Mike
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need the publisher for the &#8220;name&#8221; per se. However, you do need a publisher for (a) access to accounts and (b) fulfillment to those accounts. There are many other things the publisher adds  as well.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a bookstore manager I am really pleased that you have decided to eliminate Thomas Nelson&#039;s imprints.  This will greatly help us in so many areas.  Ordering and returning products will be a lot easier for the newer employees who aren&#039;t as familiar with the different imprints.  Our filing cabinets will be significantly less cluttered.  There will be a lot less confusion in our accounting department.  I sympathize with those who have attachments to the particular imprints but I am excited to see the change because of the impact that it will have on our business.  I hope to see other publishers follow your lead.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a bookstore manager I am really pleased that you have decided to eliminate Thomas Nelson&#8217;s imprints.  This will greatly help us in so many areas.  Ordering and returning products will be a lot easier for the newer employees who aren&#8217;t as familiar with the different imprints.  Our filing cabinets will be significantly less cluttered.  There will be a lot less confusion in our accounting department.  I sympathize with those who have attachments to the particular imprints but I am excited to see the change because of the impact that it will have on our business.  I hope to see other publishers follow your lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Enns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Enns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!
Makes me think.  If the title of the book is strong, do I really need a publisher
with a strong name?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!<br />
Makes me think.  If the title of the book is strong, do I really need a publisher<br />
with a strong name?</p>
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		<title>By: Deb Kinnard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb Kinnard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I figure, the multiple-imprint issue was costing money.  After all, it does no harm otherwise, so why fix it if it ain&#039;t broke?

Some bookstores in my area shelve fiction higgledy-piggledy, CBA and ABA mixed together in a big happy group.  If I, as a customer, with my 3-seconds-per- potential-purchase to spend on choosing a book, don&#039;t recognize the author, I look next at imprint. Imprint does in fact convey info to me as a buyer. Not being 100% aware of what every single conglomerate offers, if I don&#039;t recognize the imprint or publisher as being me-friendly, I&#039;ll just leave the book on the store shelf.

I imagine my comment will not find favor because it&#039;s not politically correct--not being totally supportive of whatever the large pubs want to do.  But in discussing this, I have put n my constant book-buyer hat, and hung up my writer-chapeau...at least for the moment *G*


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figure, the multiple-imprint issue was costing money.  After all, it does no harm otherwise, so why fix it if it ain&#8217;t broke?</p>
<p>Some bookstores in my area shelve fiction higgledy-piggledy, CBA and ABA mixed together in a big happy group.  If I, as a customer, with my 3-seconds-per- potential-purchase to spend on choosing a book, don&#8217;t recognize the author, I look next at imprint. Imprint does in fact convey info to me as a buyer. Not being 100% aware of what every single conglomerate offers, if I don&#8217;t recognize the imprint or publisher as being me-friendly, I&#8217;ll just leave the book on the store shelf.</p>
<p>I imagine my comment will not find favor because it&#8217;s not politically correct&#8211;not being totally supportive of whatever the large pubs want to do.  But in discussing this, I have put n my constant book-buyer hat, and hung up my writer-chapeau&#8230;at least for the moment *G*</p>
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		<title>By: Gina H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too was sad to see Westbow&#039;s name go. It was  who I dreamed of writing for one day. Why? Because of the quality of the books put out under the imprint. However, I quickly got over it and now I understand why it was done. You explained it well. Thanks so much.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too was sad to see Westbow&#8217;s name go. It was  who I dreamed of writing for one day. Why? Because of the quality of the books put out under the imprint. However, I quickly got over it and now I understand why it was done. You explained it well. Thanks so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I go to a library or bookstore where there is no distinction between secular and Christian book sections, I figure out that a book was written by a Christian author by checking the imprint. If I see the Waterbrook logo I know what that means. That&#039;s the quickest way for me to find what I want.

I suppose it would help authors who are trying to sell to the general public and not just sell to a Christian market because in some settings the books will blend together, and unless you know the author, you won&#039;t know what you&#039;re getting until you take it home and read it, or unless God or faith is mentioned on the back cover. But that&#039;s just my take as an avid reader and book addict. I&#039;m sure most people could care less.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I go to a library or bookstore where there is no distinction between secular and Christian book sections, I figure out that a book was written by a Christian author by checking the imprint. If I see the Waterbrook logo I know what that means. That&#8217;s the quickest way for me to find what I want.</p>
<p>I suppose it would help authors who are trying to sell to the general public and not just sell to a Christian market because in some settings the books will blend together, and unless you know the author, you won&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re getting until you take it home and read it, or unless God or faith is mentioned on the back cover. But that&#8217;s just my take as an avid reader and book addict. I&#8217;m sure most people could care less.</p>
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		<title>By: Camy Tang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camy Tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting topic. As a reader, I never noticed imprints in mainstream romance unless the imprint had a distinctive design to the covers of all their titles in that imprint, like Zebra Regencies, Signet Regencies, the various imprints under Harlequin/Silhouette.

But if the covers didn&#039;t have that uniform design pattern, as a reader, I didn&#039;t pay much attention to imprints before I became a writer. I pay much more attention now, but that&#039;s mostly for information on the market, not because I&#039;m interested in any particular imprint over another.

The decision to get rid of the various Thomas Nelson imprints seems like a good one. Simplicity, right? I don&#039;t quite understand why anyone would fuss about it, especially if it wasn&#039;t their own publishing house.

Camy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting topic. As a reader, I never noticed imprints in mainstream romance unless the imprint had a distinctive design to the covers of all their titles in that imprint, like Zebra Regencies, Signet Regencies, the various imprints under Harlequin/Silhouette.</p>
<p>But if the covers didn&#8217;t have that uniform design pattern, as a reader, I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to imprints before I became a writer. I pay much more attention now, but that&#8217;s mostly for information on the market, not because I&#8217;m interested in any particular imprint over another.</p>
<p>The decision to get rid of the various Thomas Nelson imprints seems like a good one. Simplicity, right? I don&#8217;t quite understand why anyone would fuss about it, especially if it wasn&#8217;t their own publishing house.</p>
<p>Camy</p>
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